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You describe your grandmother on your homepage
as a 'professional storyteller'. Tell us a little bit about her,
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grandmother, who I called Nana, had given up her career, unfortunately,
long before I was born. My grandfather had insisted she do it—he
only let her perform at church functions for free. A real shame,
too, because she was quite well known in her day as both a director
of plays and a storyteller. I’m told that people lined the streets
outside the church she was married in just to get a glimpse of
her. A few even tore at her veil to get a memento. She told stories
of Norwegian immigrants who had just come to America and all the
crazy things that happened to them adjusting to a new land. She
became those immigrants, too. It was all first person. Her influence
on me was profound—she was so amazingly talented and funny. Being
with her was like getting a one-woman show for free. I think that
through her stories she helped me develop
a keen sense of humor at a very
early age. I have always appreciated the oral tradition of storytelling,
and I’m sure that’s why I use so much first person in my novels.
She really thought through her stories and I sensed a personal
connection when she told them. She interwove humor with seriousness
masterfully. She told "small" stories that spoke to universal
experiences. I remember being very angry at my grandfather (who
died when I was little) when I found out he’d stopped her career.
I wonder if in some way I had to weed through some of those emotions
when I decided to get serious about my own creative career. There
was always this inner voice in me saying, "Come on. You can’t
make this work. You’ll try and something will happen. You might
get a little success, but it will all go away. Get a real job."
One of the great tragedies of my grandmother’s life was that she
died from Alzheimer’s Disease. She lost her stories. I tried to
write about that pain with the grandmother in Rules of the Road.
Sadly, none of her stories were written down. Nothing she ever
did was recorded. I can’t tell you what I’d give to have just
a few of her stories in any form. |
2.
You have written, 'I work in humor because I believe that humorous
books teach young people to use laughter against the storms of
life. There's clinically proven power in humor to change our bodies
and minds. Humor is a survival tool.' Does this mean you wouldn't
contemplate writing a humourless book? |
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am the kind of person who needs to laugh, who uses humor to make
sense of things. I can’t imagine writing a book in which there
is no humor whatsoever because, for me, humor intersects with
the good and the painful parts of life. When I can laugh about
something, or laugh in the midst of something painful, it shows
me that I’ve found hope that things will get better. I don’t think
I’m capable of writing a book that doesn’t have some humor in
it. I get depressed just thinking about it.S |
3.
Something you've said about characterisation I find highly illuminating:
"Characters are like children--they respond to what we expose
them to, and quite often they don't pay any attention to what
we say. When I get lazy in this area, I write myself into a corner--I
don't know my characters very well and can only take them so far."
Can you expand on that? |
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Oh,
these characters we create just amaze us all the time. If we writers
have done the hard work in understanding our characters, they
will have wills of their own, or at the very least agendas. And
that means, for my main characters and to a lesser degree my secondary
ones, I have to know who they are inside, outside, emotionally,
historically, professionally, physically, socially, and on and
on. I ask myself dozens of questions about where they were born,
what families they grew up in, regions of the country they lived
in, special gifts they have, dreams, nightmares, fears, desires.
I just keep layering the information on top of information until
I get a character who has a real, conflicted personality. I call
it giving them a birth certificate. I’ve learned what happens
when I don’t do this—learned it when I was writing Squashed. I’d
done very little thinking through that story and got to a point
about a third of the way through it where I didn’t know how Ellie
and her father would respond to each other. I simply didn’t know
them well enough to know. So I went back and wrote out the history
of their life together, what it was like while Ellie’s mother
was still alive, what her life and death truly meant to them,
and gradually I learned who these two different people were, how
they were connected, and how they were not. Then their voices
became authentic and they started flowing in ways they never could
when they were simply stick figures in my head. |
4.
Is this connected with your use of first-person-voice narrative?
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think so. By the time I’ve build up my main characters’ backgrounds,
their voices are in my heads so strongly it feels like I can hear
them speaking. It’s funny, I can never actually see my main characters
fully, but I can hear them. I know exactly what it’s like inside
their guts and their hearts. |
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One of your novels, Sticks (not yet published in the UK, but available
over the internet) concerns a 10 yr old pool player. As a teenager
you were a keen pool player yourself--"The crack of a well-hit
ball, the ram of a perfectly executed bank shot against the rail
rang out like rifle shots and became to me, next to a Beatles
song, one of the profoundly meaningful sounds in the universe"--but
you haven't necessarily shared the obsessions of your other main
characters (photography:Thwonk; vegetable-growing:Squashed; shoes:Rules
of the Road). Because of that, was there a difference between
writing Sticks and your other books? |
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Actually,
I have shared the passions of each one of my characters, just
not always overtly. In Squashed, Ellie’s desire to grow the biggest
pumpkin in Iowa was exactly how I felt about trying to grow my
big dream of
being a successful writer. In
THWONK, although I am truly one of the world’s worst photographers,
I do know what it’s like to see the world through a creative lens
like A.J. does through her camera. In Rules of the Road, I never
sold shoes, but I was in advertising sales for ten years and I
had experienced the high drama of eyeball to eyeball selling.
In Backwater, I pulled from my real love of history and my family’s
many hiking trips to the Adirondack Mountains. Sticks connected
me with an old love—playing pool--but I quickly discovered that
it’s much easier to play the game than write about it. I  struggled
with the pool game scenes because in the early drafts they sounded
boring, but the breakthrough came when I started seeing the game
scenes as a dance that I needed to choreograph. That added a rhythm
to it. I could feel the characters move around the table, point
their cues, hit the balls. The other complexity in writing Sticks
for me was trying to sound like a ten year-old boy. I’d had no
brothers growing up; my folks were divorced when I was 8 and I
rarely saw my father. So, I had no choice but to drive my husband
crazy. I followed him around with a note pad, shrieking: "Tell
me everything you remember about being ten. Nothing is insignificant
here." My husband Evan is the archetype for Arlen Pepper, the
ten year-old math visionary in the book. |
6.
Squashed contains some great slapstick set-pieces (the exploding
pumpkin for example). Have there been any moves to film it? |
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have been and none of them, to date, have panned out. I do tend
to think visually—learned to do even more of that during my stint
as a screenwriter. I always visualize my books happening. |
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The character in Squashed is overweight. Underlying the humour
the book tells the poignant story of this plump girl's developing
self-image and her first relationship with a boy. It was your
first book and you wrote it while recovering from a serious driving
accident. The themes of first novels are normally significant
for various reasons - are they in this one?
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Well,
certainly as a young person I knew all about being plump. Pudgy
we called it then; chubby. Awful, awful words that still make
me spin with memories. I did want to write a book that showed
a big girl not becoming anorexic thin, but having a really good
life, getting the guy, AND winning with the vegetable. Weight
was definitely an echo between Ellie and Max the pumpkin. Squashed
relates to me on so many levels—on being who you are despite what
other people think. I’ve always been a person like that—never
a mainstream kid. Then there’s the message of overcoming adversity
and how it can make us stronger. I was certainly overcoming plenty
after my car accident—wondering if I could write again. Figuring
I could; doing it in twenty minute segments at first due to the
chronic pain. Learning so much about the power of laughter to
heal. The humor in that book was downright healing to me. I think
that when I finished writing Squashed, I felt that I, too, could
win. |
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The relationship in Squashed is movingly affectionate, rather
than 'hot' or 'passionate' . In Thwonk you have fun in undermining
the class stud. One Amazon reviewer has written: "Thwonk, is an
excellent book for a teen who, like myself, scorns ordinary, flouncy
teen romance novels, or romance novels period." Indeed, in some
ways the values in your books are reminiscent of the better aspects
of the Fifties and pre-Flower-Power Sixties, exactly the period
of your own childhood and early adolescence. Is that significant?
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Somewhat,
although I became a teenager in 1964 and lived through the Sixties
in all it’s fire and cultural diversity. The Sixties, more than
the Fifties had the biggest impact on my adolescence. I’ve managed
to wipe out any memory of disco in the early 70’s which, I think,
is to my credit. What I’ve learned from writing for YAs is that
the experience of adolescence is much, much more universal than
we might think. Being understood, parental angst, hormonal upheavals,
obsessions, fears--these have been with teens forever and ever.
I’m not convinced that the heart of people has changed all that
much over the years—I see the changes more on the outside—the
fashion of the minute, the lipstick of the millenium. That kind
of thing. As a forty-eight year-old woman, this gives me a lot
of hope. |
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Rules of The Road is a case in point. The book is so effective
because the main character is so UN-contemporary, so UN-like the
cliched picture of the somber and joyless adolescents who take
part-time jobs just to earn some weekend money. Jenna is like
a character from a Preston Sturges film, dreamily high-minded.
Her speech towards the end literally brought tears to my eyes.
How did you work up so much enthusiasm for shoe-selling? |
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simply loved the thought of a kid being passionate about selling
something so common. When I turned the rock over in my mind about
what kind of a person would really succeed at selling shoes, it
became clear to me that it would be the kind of person who was
humble, not showy, didn’t mind getting on her knees to help people.
I wanted Jenna to have all of those attributes and to show how
loving something ordinary can make it extraordinary. I added that
passion for selling shoes because it was funny. I wanted Jenna
to be completely anti-bimbo, to show that jiggles and bumps do
not an interesting person make. It’s what’s inside, what drives
us, NOT how we look or who we hang out with that defines us as
people. As the shoe business part of the story grew, I found myself
relishing in all the nutty characters I could create. I have,
for the most part, loved work. It fuels me, gives me interest.
I love what I do as a writer and I know lots of other people in
other professions who love what they do. I wanted to celebrate
that, and as a humorist, I had to push the envelope a little and
see how funny I could make that. One of my favorite lines in the
book is "selling shoes is the quickest road to humility in all
of retail." |
10.
Rules of The Road is my favourite of your books,
so
it was disappointing not to see it better promoted in the UK.
It was given an appallingly inept jacket, which gave quite the
wrong impression of the main character. How do your books go down
in AUstralia or other parts of the world? |
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think I’ve done fairly well for the most part. Rules of the Road
is coming out in Germany soon. Thwonk has been published in six
languages. The U.K. Rules of the Road cover was mentioned in at
least one major review as being inappropriate. I think everyone
loses when a book’s cover art doesn’t honestly portray the story.
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11.
In Backwater, your latest US novel (not yet scheduled
for UK release), the main character's 'thing' is history, much
to her lawyer father's disgust. It comes back to the fifties theme
in a way, because alongside plenty of humour, the serious side
of this book is all about keeping connected to the past. What
made you turn to history as a theme for this novel? |
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Well,
my seventeen year-old daughter is seriously thinking about becoming
a historian, so I pulled greatly from her passion for the subject.
I am a connect-the-dots person so I’m always interested in how
history brings us to truth in the present. But with the current
interest in family history and genealogy (at least in the U.S.),
I don’t think of history as being a throwback to the Fifties.
Millions of people are tracing their roots to find new ways of
understanding who they are from who they’ve come from. I wanted
to explore that in a story; wanted to show how the energy of that
passion could pit a committed non-adventurer against the elements
to find the truth. I was also intrigued by how you make history
funny. |
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Can you tell us what the main character's 'thing' will be in your
next book? |
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Waitressing
and comfort food. I have deep understanding in both subjects.
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13.
You were a regular visitor to the public library in River Forest,
Illinois, where you grew up. Is it in libraries that YAs are most
likely to stumble on your books? |
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Certainly,
libraries, but bookstores are selling them nicely as well. Happily,
I’m on school reading lists, being taught in grammar, middle,
and high schools as well as college. I can’t tell you how weird
it is to be homework. One of my favorite letters from a reader
went something like this. "Dear Mrs. Bauer, My important paper
on you was due four months ago. Could you fax me everything you’ve
got on yourself before my father kills me? Your fan forever…"
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14.
The marketing of and the future of teenage/YA fiction has been
the subject of a number of Special Guest interviews and features
on ACHUKA. Do you have any strong views on YA novels as a genre?
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What
I love about YA fiction is that it’s for kids right where they
are, it deals with their issues--not adult issues, teenage ones.
I think YA novels are an important bridge between adolescence
and adulthood. More and more I’m hearing of adults who have gotten
hooked on the genre. The teenage years are so perilous, we need
everything we can get our hands on to try to make sense of them.
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15.
Give us a picture of your working day, including specific details
of the tools of your trade. |
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Clutching
my cup of Harrod’s #14 Breakfast Blend tea, I get to work around
9AM, having just stepped over several piles of library books in
various places on my office floor. When I am finishing a book,
I don’t shower until later in the afternoon. When I am starting
a book, I’m cleaner. I do a great deal of research with my work
and am surrounded by books relating to whatever subjects I’m writing
about—for the book I’m finishing now I have books on emotional
intelligence, owning and operating a restaurant, motorcycles,
leadership, something called, "The Gifts of Suffering," adoption,
cancer, and several American cook books. I get looks of deep concern
from librarians when I take my array of books out of the library
when I’m beginning a new project. Now my office—it’s a cross between
a library and a toy store. I have lots of toys hanging from wires
above my desk. I turn on my Gateway computer and usually read
the last twenty pages of what I last wrote to get a sense of where
to go next. I am exhausted by this and get more tea. I repeat
this process until I’ve written a few sentences, then a few more.
I don’t have a certain number of pages I write in a day. I tried
that once and failed abysmally. I just cut away at my work until
decent sentences appear and follow them with more decent sentences.
Occasionally a really nice sentence appears and I will read it
endlessly and pat myself on the back. Most of what I do is revision.
Although it is a gift when whole sections come out in first draft
that don’t need rewriting. I have all my drafts printed out AND
saved on my computer with names like THIS, I SWEAR IS THE LAST
DRAFT. THE ABSOLUTE LAST DRAFT—NO KIDDING. HELP ME BEFORE I WRITE
AGAIN. Unfortunately, I never remember which draft is which with
these headings. But somehow, following this pattern, I write novels.
About one a year. I suppose it helps that when I’m not writing,
I’m compulsing about my work. Years ago my daughter made a sign
for my office door. The first side reads MOM IS WRITING. The other
side reads MOM IS THINKING ABOUT WRITING. |
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And finally, you've said that you can tell when your writing's
going well because it makes you laugh out loud as you're writing
it. Has any episode made you laugh so much you've had trouble
continuing with it? |
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I
can think of a few examples of sustained laughter. In Rules of
the Road, when Jenna is talking to Harry Bender on the phone and
he is spouting Texas-isms such as, "Always drink downstream from
the herd." For some reason this broke me up. Also the section
where a man who worked with Harry is recounting Harry’s greatest
moment as a shoe salesman—waiting on Imelda Marcos who bought
thirty pairs of shoes in an afternoon. In Squashed I was in hysterics
when I wrote Ellie’s speech about why she grows giant pumpkins:
"Lettuce doesn’t bring heartache. Turnips don’t ask for your soul.
Potatoes don’t care where you are or even where they are. Tomatoes
cuddle up to anyone who’ll give them mulch and sunshine…" Vegetable
schtick does it to me every time. In Backwater, writing the audacious
wilderness guide, Mountain Mama gave me some good hoots as well.
Once when I was in my office writing and laughing, my daughter
came home from school with a friend. From behind my closed door
I heard the friend ask Jean, "Who’s in there with your Mom?" Jean
paused and said solemnly, "My mother is alone." |
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